LR025a3 - LR/Classic (LrC) & LR/Cloud (Lr) Change Sync Catalog - Apendix A3
Revert to an OLDER BU of the synced catalog
Appendix A3
Result Details - Case 3 (Test 6b7)
This document contains the details related to Case 3. Numbers in parenthesis refer to test image numbers.
Color coding
In the findings below, I us the following text color coding:
BLUE – Bug (IMHO)
PINK – Inconsistencies, weirdness and things that may not be what is expected
RED – Remedies that don’t seem to work
GREEN – Remedies that seem to work
Appendix - A3
Inconsistency between synced and un-synced images. Un-synced LrC images revert to their state in the BU catalog when that catalog was restored but synced images kept the edits done after the BU was created, In other words reverting to the BU catalog did not revert the synced images to the state of that BU catalog.
Un-synced LrC Original Images
(1-1, 2-1)
(1-2, 2-2)
(1-4, 2-4)
(1-5, 2-5)
(1-7, 2-7)
Result in LrC after BU restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Images restored as they were in the BU catalog. If physical images on disk had been moved, deleted or renamed after the backup was created, they will be ‘missing’ after the restore.
- Edits. removes, and deletions done in LrC after the BU was created are undone by the restore (removed or deleted images may be ‘missing’ if physical image file on disk is no longer present)
- Images imported into LrC after the BU was created are not present in the restored catalog although physical images on disk remain.
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- Not present as they had not been synced
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Synced LrC Original Images
Imported into LrC before BU taken
(3-1, 4-1)
(3-2, 4-2)
Result in LrC after BU restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Images initially restored as they were in the BU catalog. If physical images on disk had been moved, deleted or renamed after the BU was created, they will be ‘missing’ after the restore.
- These images regain edits done after the BU was taken
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- SP present
- SP’s retain edits done in LrC or Lr even those done after the BU was taken
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Synced LrC Original images
Imported into LrC after BU taken
Edited in LrC or Lr/Cloud
(3-4, 4-4)
Result in LrC after BU restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- SP’s from Lr/Cloud with edits done after BU was taken are downloaded to LrC Catalog
- SP’s are placed into the DSP sub folder of XFER folder
- No physical image file is downloaded, only the SP (image marked as missing)
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- Replacing image in disk folder or re-linking re-instates missing image resulting in having a full size real image rather than just an SP in LrC.
Synced LrC original images
Removed from LrC (left on disk) after the BU created
(3-5, 4-5)
Result in LrC after BU restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Images are restored as they are in the BU catalog. If physical images on disk had been moved, deleted or renamed after the BU was created, they will be ‘missing’ after the restore.
- Images are marked as syncing and are in the “All Synced Photos” special collection but no mate is in Lr and those images won’t sync
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- Not present (however the SP is in the deleted list)
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- Images in LrC are present and marked as syncing and are in the “All Synced Photos” special collection but there is no mate in Lr (other than in deleted list) and they do not sync. This also causes image counts to be different.
- Syncing settings from the original image in LrC to the SP does not bring the Original settings over to the SP.
- Editing the image in LrC does not cause it to appear in Lr/Cloud nor does the edit get applied to the image in the Lr/Cloud deleted list. Sync status shows “syncing x images” but image does not show up in Lr/Cloud
- Un-deleting it in Lr/Cloud brings the un-deleted SP down to LrC (with any edits done before the LrC removal was synced) resulting in 2 images in LrC. The SP from Lr/Cloud will arrive in LrC as a new (missing) image having only the SP. The SP is placed in the DSP sub folder of the XFER folder. If the original from the restore is in the physical XFER folder the new SP gets a “-2” appended to the end of the file name. Placing a copy of the physical image file into the DSP folder using your OS and renaming it with the “-2” if needed makes it no longer missing. The SP copy is synced but the original is not synced even though it looks like it is.
- Un-syncing and re-syncing the original image in LrC does not work even though the sync status shows that it is syncing. A few moments after doing this, the image becomes un-synced and is removed from all synced collections including the “All Synced Photographs” special collection.
- Un-syncing and re-syncing the original in LrC ONLY works if you first remove or delete the SP in both LrC (if you had un-deleted it in Lr after the catalog restore) and in LR. Then un-sync and re-sync the Original in LrC.
Synced LrC original images
Deleted from LrC (and disk) after BU was taken
(3-7, 4-7)
Result in LrC after BU catalog restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Image cell returned to LrC with catalog restore as “Missing Image file” and no preview”
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- Not present even though they came back into LrC catalog with the catalog restore.
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- Replacing image in disk folder brings back preview and takes off “missing” indicator (but still doesn’t sync)
- Images marked as syncing in LrC but no mate in Lr/Cloud
- Mismatch between LrC and Lr/Cloud in both image presence and image count
- Editing the original image in LrC does not cause it to appear in Lr/cloud. Sync status shows “syncing 1 image” but image does not show up in Lr
- Un-deleting it in Lr/Cloud brings the un-deleted SP down to LrC as a new (missing) image having only the SP. The SP is placed in the DSP sub folder of the XFER folder resulting in 2 copies in LrC. If the original image was still in the XFER folder, the SP gets a “-2” added to the end of the file name, The SP copy is synced but the original is not synced even though it looks like it is.
- No known way to get the original image to sync again short of removing it from LrC and re-importing it (either directly or through export/import as catalog
Synced LrC Original images
Deleted from Lr/Cloud after BU created
(3-6, 4-6)
Result in LrC after BU restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Still in LrC (cloud deletes do not propagate to LrC).
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- Images in LrC are marked as syncing and are in the “All Synced Photos” special collection but there is no mate in Lr (other than in deleted list) and they do not sync. This also causes image counts to be different.
- Editing the restored image in LrC does not cause it to appear in Lr/Cloud nor does the edit get applied to the image in Lr deleted list. Sync status shows “syncing x images” but image does not show up
- Un-syncing and re-syncing the original image in LrC does not work. A few moments after doing this, the image becomes un-synced and is removed from all synced collections
- Un-deleting it in Lr/Cloud brings the un-deleted image down to LrC (with any edits done before the LrC removal was synced) as an SP with the physical file missing. The SP is placed in the DSP sub folder of the XFER folder resulting in 2 copies in LrC. If the original was still in the XFER folder the new SP gets a “-2” appended to the end of the file name. The SP copy is synced but the original is not synced even though it looks like it is.
- This works to get the original photos syncing again. Export original image as catalog from CAT2 creating CAT3. Then remove the image from the restored catalog (CAT2). Now in CAT2 import as catalog from CAT3. Then in CAT2 add images to the needed synced collections. They will now show up in LrC with all edit history, will be in same un-synced collections but will not be put in Pub Serv collections they had been in
Synced LrC original Images
Edited in both Lr and LrC after the BU
(3-8, 4-8)
Result in LrC after BU catalog restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Images initially revert to their state in the BU catalog with the restore
- When the restored catalog is synced, if the last post BU edit had been done in LrC the image in LrC loses both edits. If the last edit had been one in Lr, the edit from Lr is synced to LrC
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- SP’s present
- Retained the latest edit done in LrC or Lr even though edits were done after the BU was taken
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- Mismatch if the last edit had been done in LrC as the version in LrC was reverted to state in the BU catalog (before the edits had been done) but the matching image in Lr still has those edits.
- Further edits done in Lr or LrC sync but ONLY the new changes. Edits undone by the catalog restore remain different between Lr and LrC
- Further edits to the same controls that were undone by the catalog restore do not sync to the other ecosystem.
Synced Lr/Cloud Original Images
Imported into Lr/Cloud and synced before BU taken
Unchanged in either Lr or LrC after the BU was created
(5-1, 6-1, 7-1, 8-1)
(5-2, 6-2, 7-2, 8-2)
(5-3, 6-3, 7-3, 8-3)
Result in LrC afterBU restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Full size images present (previously downloaded from Lr/Cloud).
- Images retain edits done in either Lr or LrC after the BU was taken
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- Full size image present
- Retains edits done in either LrC or Lr after the BU was taken
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Synced Lr/Cloud Original images
Imported into Lr/Cloud and synced after BU taken
Edited in Lr
(5-4, 6-4)
(7-4, 8-4)
Result in LrC after BU restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Full size images download from Lr/Cloud with edits done in Lr or LrC
- The full files from Lr/Cloud put in the XFER folder
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- Full images present with post BU edits
- Retains edits done in Lr/Cloud or LrC (if synced) after BU taken
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Synced Lr/Cloud Original images
Removed from LrC (left on disk) after the BU
(5-5, 6-5)
(7-5, 8-5)
Result in LrC after BU restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Images restored as they were in BU catalog
- Images are marked as syncing and are in the “All Synced Photos” special collection but no mate is in Lr and those mages won’t sync
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- Not present even though they were removed from LrC after the BU was taken, however are in deleted list
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- Images in LrC are marked as syncing and are in the “All Synced Photos” special collection but there is no mate in Lr (other than in deleted list) and they do not sync. This also causes image counts to be different.
- Editing the image in LrC does not cause it to appear in Lr/Cloud nor does the edit get applied to the image in Lr deleted list. Sync status shows “syncing x images” but image does not show up
- Un-syncing and re-syncing the original image in LrC does not work. A few moments after doing this, the image becomes un-synced and is removed from all synced collections
- Un-deleting the original image in Lr/Cloud brings the un-deleted full size image down to LrC as a VC resulting in 2 images in LrC. It has edits done before it was deleted. The VC is synced but the original in LrC is not synced even though it looks like it is. The original retains its participation in non-synced collections, Pub Serv collections and edit history, the VC does not.
Syncing settings from the original image in LrC to the VC does not bring the Original settings over to the VC.
- This works to get the original photos syncing again. Export original image as catalog from CAT2 creating CAT3. Then remove the image from the restored catalog (CAT2). Now in CAT2 import as catalog from CAT3. Then in CAT2 add images to the needed synced collections. They will now show up in LrC with all edit history, will be in same un-synced collections but will not be put in Pub Serv collections they had been in
Synced Lr/Cloud Original images
Deleted from Lr/Cloud after BU
(5-6, 6-6)
(7-6, 8-6)
Result in LrC after BU catalog restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Still in LrC (cloud deletes do not propagate to LrC).
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- Images in LrC are marked as syncing and are in the “All Synced Photos” special collection but there is no mate in Lr/cloud (other than in deleted list) and they do not sync. This also causes image counts to be different.
- Editing the image in LrC does not cause it to appear in Lr/Cloud nor does edit get applied to image in Lr/Cloud deleted list. Sync status shows “syncing x images” but image does not show up in Lr/Cloud
- Un-syncing the full size image in LrC that came back with the restore and then re-syncing it does not make it sync (even though it says it is) and does not stick as a few moments after re-syncing it, it un-syncs itself.
- Un-deleting the original in Lr/Cloud creates a VC in LrC (without LrC edits done after the image was deleted) and is synced. (the version already in LrC with edit history and collection participation is not syncing)
Syncing settings from the Original image in LrC to the VC does not bring the Original settings over to the VC.
- No known way to get the original image to sync again short of removing it from LrC and re-importing it either directly or through export/import catalog
Synced Lr/Cloud original images
Deleted from LrC (and disk) after BU was taken
(5-7, 6-7)
(7-7. 8-7)
Result in LrC after BU catalog restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Image cells return to LrC with catalog restore as “Missing Image file” and no preview”
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- Not present even though they were removed from LrC after the BU was taken
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- Replacing image in disk folder brings back preview and takes off “missing” indicator (but still doesn’t sync)
- Images marked as syncing in LrC but no mate in Lr/Cloud
- Mismatch between LrC and Lr/Cloud in both image presence and image count
- Editing the original image in LrC does not cause it to appear in Lr/Cloud. Sync status shows “syncing 1 image” but image does not show up in Lr
- Un-deleting the original in Lr/Cloud downloads a VC to LrC. The downloaded VC in LrC picks up any edits done in LrC before it was un-deleted in Lr/Cloud but the matching version in Lr does not get those edits. The VC is synced. The original version that came back with the BU catalog. with edit history and collection participation still does not sync)
Synced Lr/Cloud original Images
Edited in both Lr and LrC after the BU
(5-8, 6-8)
(7-8, 8-8)
Result in LrC after BU catalog restored and synced
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Result in LR after reconciliation
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- Images retain last edit done in LrC or Lr even though the edits were done after the BU was taken
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- Full size images present
- Retain latest edit done in LrC or Lr even though edits were done after the BU was taken
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